RADHA SOAMI SATSANG AGRA --- TALKS OF Dr. PREM SARAN SATSANGI SAHIB

OBSERVATIONS ON VARIUOS TALKS OF Dr. PREM SARAN SATSANGI SAHIB

AS COMPILED BY “RADHA SOAMI SATSANG, DAYALBAGH AGRA”

ON BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION OF SOAMI JI MAHARAJ JI (DATED 24.08.2018)

ISSUES—

A)     IS THE EXPLAINATION GIVEN FOR SPIRTUAL REGIONS IS SCIENTIFIC? 

ANSWER--NO

B)      RELEVANCE OF SCIENCE FOR SPIRITUAL ENDORSEMENTS.  

ANSWER- TO SOME EXTENT (AS OF NOW UPTO PHYSICAL PLANE OF MIND AND MATTER)

The following verse of Kabir Sahib’s daughter Kamaali, in the context of a learned Pandit Sarvajeet on scriptural insights of spirituality of holy books compared to mystical realization of the Supreme Being by a true Master can have some relation to the narrative of the Dr. Prem Saran Satsangi  Sahib.

 ‘कबीर का घर शिखर पे जहाँ सिलसिली गैल

पाँव न टिके पपील का पंडित लाधे बैल’

 Meaning- Kabir’s abode is at the peak of mountain whose path is greasy and cramped where even an ant’s feet fail to crawl; the learned Pandit has bought a bullock cart (full of books).

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CONTROVERSIAL ASPECTS

1              CAUSE OF ABSOLUTE REALITY IS UNKNOWN BY SCIENCE; EFFECT CANNOT BE CHANGED—BUT ONLY MONITORED--

By author/speaker’s own admission, the current expansion of scientific insights cannot capture the higher and the purest spiritual phenomenon. (However some details of “Pind” desh or the physical cosmology of this material plane can be better interpreted with advancement of scientific systems and components evolved in last 3-4 centuries.)

He further remarks that the original “cause of Ultimate Realty or the Absolute Reality” is present only with the Supreme Being or in the Purely Spiritual Region. Rest of it is effect that we “perceive” or “experience” in the other two planes (universal mind & physical) and that too within the limitations of our understanding. So we are able to “monitor the effects”—that is-- we don’t have control on the effects too.  

Cause can neither be understood nor interpreted while effect can be seen and monitored but “why” of such effect also cannot be fathomed. As humans we are mere observers and not knowers. Thus narrative is hardly has any rationale reasoning, except that this is it and  what it is.

This treatise lays no stress on the necessity of a living Master, the noble attributes of the Lord’s love, will, grace and compassion neither speaks about humility surrender, gratitude or forgiveness of karmas/sins of the seeker.

Why Divinity can be blessed by “God as Satguru” or “Word made Flesh” has not been touched?

2              MERELY GRAPHICAL PICTURE OF THE INNER REGIONS DOES NOT MAKE THEM SCIENTIFICALLY COMPLIANT

a)      The Realty or inner planes of consciousness described by the Saints are on the basis of inner mystical experience. The mere diagrammatic portrayal by the author of the 18 sub-divisions from the pre-creational to post creational states and naming them as e_1, e2_, e₃—e_6, f₁-f_6, g_1—g₆ does not make them scientific or logical.

The existence of invisible Padam, Kamal and chakras, linked to nerve centers or “ganglia” in the body are stages of awareness, each representing multiple states of consciousness one above the other. No reasoning for their existence is given—except that the Nature has willed it so.

(Similar elaboration and citations in graphic format are available in RSSB books like “The Path of the Masters” and others too).

Mystics have also subdivided various regions into five or sometimes three regions depending upon the simplicity of narrative and broad categorization.

To call all them a scientific research is assumptive rather than factual.

b)      Neither the idea of grey and white area in human brain has any scientific and mystical basis.

c)       God cannot be measured or experienced through frequencies –except that conditions of sentient beings can be assessed. That is applicable for the physical plane only.   

d)      Furthermore two successive Big-bangs mentioned by the Author— is a theory conceived by scientists or intellectuals, then justified imaginatively because universe exists in scattered form. It carries little rationale from the mystic perspective.

e)      Science is within the domain of thought and reasoning while God is not. Says Soami Ji in Sar Bachan—

जहाँ मिल्लोनी तन्हा विचार, हमारा देश एक सतनाम वहां विचार का कछु न काम कर विचार इन दोखा खाया बूँद देश में जाये मिलाया

Wherever mind, maya and matter are mixed, that is the region of thought. My (Radha Saomi) abode is region of Satnam (eternal truth), Where thought does not exist. By dwelling on thought and reasoning they remain deluded. Thus they confine themselves to realm of Universal mind.

Even Guru Nanak Sahib—

सोचे सोच न होवई जे सोचे लखवार

God cannot be realized by the purity of mind and reasoning or logic.

Divine realization, according to Sant Mat, is a matter of grace. Guru Nanak repeats the final word in Jap Ji

जिन को नदर करम तिन कार,, नानक नदरी नदर निहाल

Those who are blessed with His Grace, to them He redeems—says Nanak.

4              IS LIVING GURU REQUIRED OR NOT?

All the mystics have stressed the need of a true living Master Mentor—Guru or Satguru-- who is “Word made flesh” or the Supreme Being Himself dons human attire to reveal His secrets to a few yearners of mystical Reality. However the very opening page of the subject compilation states “He (Soami Ji Maharaj- Shiv Dayal Singh Ji) was the Incarnation of the Supreme Being and had descended from the Highest Spiritual Region and had assumes Human Form at will. He never needed, nor had He any Guru”. The statement “He never needed, nor had He any Guru” is negation of the necessity of Guru that is against the fundamental tenets of Soami Ji’s teachings for the souls seeking Mukti or redemption or liberation from the cycle of 84. It is unclear whether the author is in agreement with this line of thinking. Soami Ji writes in Sar Bachan----

गुरु का धयान कर प्यारे, बिना इस के नहीं छूटना गुरु की सरन द्रिड. कर ले, बिना इस काज नहीं सरना

Only by contemplating on the form Guru, one can attain oneness with Lord to get rid of bondage of flesh. Perpetually and firmly surrender yourself to the Master, without this nothing is of avail

5              MICROCOSM AND MACROCOSM

This presentation makes understanding of macro and micro aspect of creation simpler.

Macro envelopes the God, the Universal Mind and the physical planes while human being is also connected with God, Universal Mind and the material creation through six chakras below the eye centre. Not only micro is helpful in understanding the macro, both states are intertwined in the Existence.

6              CONCLUSION—A MYSTICAL (BELIEF) SYSTEM IS SIMPLY GRAPHICALLY EXPLAINED.